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A Saturday night idea turned into a 3am app build, and a Sunday spent wrecked. Connor and Daniel ask why unlimited intelligence in your pocket is making them more miserable, and whether hard work still gets you anywhere. This one starts as a debate and ends with both of them changing their minds. Along the way: why information is not the same as knowledge, why being busy feels safer than making one real decision, and what happens when you treat effort as the scoreboard. HOSTS Daniel Franco, cofounder of Reframe Change Connor O'Rourke, CEO of Overlay LINKS Reframe Change: https://reframechange.com.au Overlay: https://www.overlay.ai/ Daniel on LinkedIn: / danieljfranco Connor on LinkedIn: / connororourke

Dan is sure his business would struggle if he stepped away tomorrow. Connor thinks that might be the clearest sign of the problem. In episode 3 of Consciously Incompetent, Connor O'Rourke challenges Daniel Franco on whether a founder can become the reason their own business can't grow. Along the way: handing over the reins before the conditions are set, when to let someone lose a deal so they can learn, what changed when Dan stepped down as CEO, and a question Dan didn't expect to ask himself about why he holds on. Then Connor turns the same question on his own role. Consciously Incompetent is a podcast about the gap between what we know and what we're sure we know. The dangerous part is rarely what you're missing. It's what you're certain about. HOSTS Daniel Franco, cofounder of Reframe Change Connor O'Rourke, CEO of Overlay

Connor sold his company and expected to feel great. Instead, it was one of the hardest stretches of his life. In episode 2 of Consciously Incompetent, Daniel Franco pushes back on the story. Eight years into his own business, he refuses to believe the finish line looks like that. So they argue it out, live. Along the way: the coach who told a young Daniel he'd never amount to anything, why entrepreneurship and parenting feel oddly similar, and what happens when the technology moves faster than anyone can make sense of it. Consciously Incompetent is a podcast about the gap between what we know and what we're sure we know. The dangerous part is rarely what you're missing. It's what you're certain about. HOSTS Daniel Franco, cofounder of Reframe Change Connor O'Rourke, CEO of Overlay LINKS Reframe Change: https://reframechange.com.au Overlay: https://www.overlay.ai/ Daniel on LinkedIn: / danieljfranco Connor on LinkedIn: / connororourke FOLLOW Website: https://consciouslyincompetent.com.au Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/03419NTD9F0iMbyz8ERHeS YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ConsciouslyIncompetentPodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/consciouslyincompetent_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@consciously.incompetent

The most dangerous leader isn't the one who knows nothing. It's the one who doesn't know they know nothing, and feels great about it. In the first episode of Consciously Incomepetent, Daniel Franco (Reframe Change), and Connor O'Rourke (Overlay) walk through the four stages of competenece, wherethey eachs till sit on the bottom step, and why the second stage is the one worth living in. They get into imposter syndrome, why founders feel relief instead of joy when they hit a goal, the delegation habit that Dan keeps getting wrong, what culture looks like in the small moments, and what happens to people when new tech takes over the boring parts of their job. Two leaders who still don't have it figured out. Guests coming soon.